I need to contact someone who might be familiar with a Herborn TF IIIc 13 die intermidiate wet draw machine, I've looked around and can't seem to find the Company that made these machines. The documention I have at present is lacking in a lot of areas. Thankyou

This is an update , The draw rings are made from a company called Remy, any info would be thankful.

Hello subaru585,

I suggest you give Niehoff a call and see if they can help you or direct you elsewhere.

Remystahl is at www.remystahl.de/

Remystahl GmbH & Co. KG
Volmarsteiner Straße 1-9
58089 Hagen
Germany

Telefon: +49 (0)2331-3 87-0
Telefax: +49 (0)2331-3 87-2 99

E-Mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Sincerely,

Peter J. Stewart-Hay
Principal
Stewart-Hay Associates
www.Stewart-Hay.com

Herborn. That goes back a while. When Hudson-Viking was formed, Viking wire had some Herborns for finer wire (30 to 44 awg). We used to say that they were "like Niehoffs" (same as when served somthing weird we say it "taste like chicken").

I think the similarity to Niehoff was that they were both made in Germany. Same for the Remy ring. Call Reiner Lashofer at Cemanco 954- 630-1323. In addition to being German, he has rings.

Richard

Vettecoupe, Spectre.. thankyou for the info, already got reply back from Mr. Lashofer at Cemanco.
Thanks

Hi Spectre,

I am aware that Niehoff formed a wholly owned subsidiary company in Sao Paulo, Brazil in 1975 named Niehoff-Herborn Máquinas Ltda. in 1975 and it still exists today so, in my mind, there is a strong association of Niehoff with Herborn. See www.niehoff.com.br/

Are you sure you are not thinking of Henrich Maschinenfabrik GmbH? See www.henrich.net/

Best regards,

Peter J. Stewart-Hay
Principal
Stewart-Hay Associates
www.Stewart-Hay.com

Update

I did contact Niehoff and although a bit complicated, here is what I learned:

" Niehoff & Herborn were partners for a long time. This relationship changed & eventually we went separate ways. Herborn eventually went into bankruptcy & assets were purchased by Dr. Keiselstein."

Niehoff Endex North America Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of Maschinenfabrik Niehoff GmbH & Co. KG, still supports Herborn machines sold by Niehoff in North America through Keiselstein GmbH.

Their Contact Information is:
Niehoff Endex North America Inc.
1 Mallard Court,
Swedesboro, NJ 08085 USA
Phone - 856 803-1800
Fax - 856 467-4884
E-Mail - This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Web Site - www.niehoff-usa.com/


Keiselstein GmbH still sells Herborn drawing machines and spare parts.

Their Contact Information is:
Keiselstein GmbH / Keiselstein International GmbH
Otto-Schmerbach-Str. 19
09117 Chemnitz
Germany
Phone - +49 (0) 371 8662670
Fax - +49 (0) 371 8662675
E-Mail - info@kieselstein-group.com
Web Site - www.kieselstein-gmbh.com/

The Keiselstein web site also indicates that they have two agents in the USA.

Ferrous Products
Strauss-Artys Corp.
88 Sunnyside Boulevard #204
Plainview, New York 11803 USA
Phone - 516 576-1690
Fax - 516 576-1692
E-mail - info@straus-artys.com
Web Site - www.straus-artys.com

Nonferrous Products
Wire Machine Systems
1617 Dividend Road
Fort Wayne, IN 46808
Phone - 260 483-9269
Fax - 260 484-0515
E-mail: sales@wire-machine.com
web site - www.wire-machine.com/

With Remystahl GmbH & Co. KG rings from Cemanco;
CEMANCO LC
951 NW 31st Avenue
Pompano Beach, FL 33069
Phone - 954 970-3099
Fax - 954 970-3056
E-mail: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.
Web Site - www.cemanco.com/
"Nearly two decades ago when Cemanco was founded, its main stream was to import German products into the United States." It has expanded a great deal since then.


I would imagine this is everything you will ever need to know about sourcing spare parts to maintain your Herborn equipment.

Sincerely,

Peter J. Stewart-Hay
Principal
Stewart-Hay Associates
www.Stewart-Hay.com