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6 years 4 months ago #910 by Archived Forum Admin
Hello all,

I have a problem with my lubricant carrier machine : it is a GSG DSB lubricant carrier machine. Basically, the problem is that I am not able to dry conveniently the wire after the lubricant carrier tank. As lubricant carrier I use Condat TS1350L.

As a result, after few working hours lubricant in first die box get wet and it is impossible to lubricante the wire and furthermore I have to change all the lubricant.

Inlet speeds are = 1-4 m/s
Wire diameters = 5,5 - 12 mm
TºC inlet wire = 40-50ºC
TºC of mix water + lubricant carrier in 200 Liters tank = 95ºC
I use 2 cold air nozzles + 1 resistance in a tube (300ºC) to dry the wire but it seems to not be enough.

Does anybody have a solution ?

I am investigating the possibility to use an induction equipment system (quick an efficient way to heat the wire before and/or after the tank) but it is a quite expensive machine.

Thanks

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6 years 4 months ago #911 by Archived Forum Admin
Have you tried to have a greater distance from your lubricant carrier tank to your first die box?.

By the temperatures you are using,the wire should dry by itself before it reaches the first die box with a longer distance.

Eduardo Anaya
Senior Consultant
INDEPA S.C.
Mexico City
Tel(011-52)555-407-7451
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6 years 4 months ago #912 by Archived Forum Admin
Thank you for the idea.

What distance do you suggest ?

We have 4 m more or less.

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6 years 4 months ago #913 by Archived Forum Admin
The more distance you can aford the better.

Ten meters would be good ,

Four meters is too short. that can be the cause of the problem.



Eduardo Anaya
Senior Consultant
INDEPA S.C.
Mexico City
Tel(011-52)555-407-7451
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6 years 4 months ago #914 by Archived Forum Admin
Hi all,

the distance required is the key.

Have you investigated going vertical to off set the space between the drying unit and the first die.

If you were to install an accumulating system then this would give you another 20-30mtrs by going vertical.

Although, the company I work for have made the move away from acid descaling to mechanical. It has been a long process, but we are now starting to achieve the similar run rates that we did with pickling, without the use of any lubricant carrier.

Hope this helps.

Jack

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6 years 4 months ago #915 by Archived Forum Admin
Hello jack,

thank you for your suggestion. I have already thought about a vertical accumulating system but theoricaly I did not want to do such because I suppose that any contact with rollers or something like this would damage the lubricant carrier crystals leading to inefficiency of the product.

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